Q. In 2 Kings 2.11-12 it says that Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind to Heaven. What does that mean and what are the chariot of fire and the horsemen?
A. This is a very interesting verse and there is a lot being said here. I’m sure we have all seen a picture of Elijah riding up to heaven in this chariot and so on, but what is really happening here is your question. Elijah knows he is leaving and he is talking to his assistant Elisha. They are making a “farewell” tour of the schools for prophets that they had a hand in. As they came to Jericho and the school there, it seems they already knew that Elijah was leaving (2K 2.5).
He leaves Jericho going east and comes to the Jordan, wraps his mantle into a tight “club” and hits the Jordan and it parts. Now they walk on the other side and Elisha asks for a double-portion of the anointing, which is the right of the first-born son which spiritually he was in regards to Elijah. As they walk and talk they see a chariot of fire and horseman coming towards them on the ground. It separates the two and Elijah is taken to heaven and Elisha says “My father, my father the chariot of Israel and the horsemen.” So briefly, that’s what happened so what is going on? Elijah is a picture of the believer translated to heaven “in a twinkling of an eye.”
Elisha is a type of the 144,000 who see the Natzal (rapture) and receive a double anointing. The chariot and the horseman were not necessarily real, but God was communicating something by these symbols. Psalm 104.3-4 says that clouds are like His chariot, which this may have been a glimpse of, and He makes the wind His angels and fire His ministers. So angels can appear in this form. Remember Yeshua was taken up “in a cloud” in Acts 1.9. Then Elisha says that Elijah was his teacher (father) and a great defense (chariot and horsemen) to Israel through his teaching, his life and service. In Num. 4.3 it says that the duties the Kohathites performed in the Mishkan is seen as a “service” in English.
In Hebrew the word for service is “tzva’a” which means army or warfare. They were entering into the service, army or warfare of the Lord by doing the things that God wanted them to do in the Temple /Tabernacle. This was seen as spiritual warfare. When we obey the Lord He is our “shield” and our defense. So, Elisha is saying that Elijah’s service (warfare) and life in obedience to God on behalf of Israel was a better defense than chariots and horsemen. There is no coincidence that Elijah is seen as a type of the Prophets and Moses the Torah. They appear with Yeshua at the transfiguration as symbols of the Law and the Prophets, the 2 witnesses if you will.
Later in 2 Kings13.14 the same thing is said of Elisha at his death but there is no indication Joash the King of Israel saw anything. He quotes what Elisha said about Elijah (2 K 2) and recognized what a valuable asset he was and a great defense to Israel, just like Elijah was, and now that is gone. All the chariots and horsemen in the land were not as valuable as one true prophet of the Lord and he knew it. He was the “chariot of Israel and the horsemen thereof “, in other words, behind Elijah and Elisha was the Lord, their chariot (Ezek 1, Psa 104) and horsemen (strength).
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Tuesday, October 17, 2006
4 Horsemen of Revelation
Q. Have the 4 horses in the Book of Revelation been released already?
A. No …they have not been “released” yet and won’t be released until the Tribulation period. Remember this book is written in symbolic language and Hebrew idioms and a good knowledge of the Biblical festivals, Hebrew, the Temple and eschatology is needed to give it meaning.
Revelation 6.1-8 begins with these 4 horses. Four in the Bible is the number of testing, and the inhabitants of the earth will be severely tested. A horse in symbolic language has to do with strength. The first horse is dealing with the authority and strength (horse) from God (the crown) to take peace from the earth. This will be accomplished by many kings and rulers in the Tribulation but the false messiah is a main player here, who pretends to be righteous and peaceful (white horse) but isn’t. Daniel 9 talks about a peace covenant he confirms with Israel but breaks at the mid-point of the Tribulation. He will be fighting battles all through the Tribulation period, losing ground to the Russians for the first few years. Russia, feeling Europe and the false messiah have been neutralized, will feel safe enough to invade Israel where she will be defeated by God Himself.
Taking credit for their defeat the false messiah will move into Israel and declare him-self to be the messiah. Israel will reject him and flee to the wilderness of Jordan/Edom/Moab where she will be protected from the false messiah for three and a half years. He in turn begins to “make war” on anyone who has the testimony of Yeshua and keeps the commandments (Rev 12.17). So, as a result, the sword of blood/ war (red horse) is unleashed and the ability to bring about great carnage. The kings of the east will be fighting the false messiah, the kings of the south will be involved, the United States will be destroyed by a Russian sneak attack at the beginning of the Tribulation and not even be a player. The Arabs will be fighting along-side the Russians for at least 3 years and the list goes on.
Because of the wars, famine is a result (black horse) and food will be hard to come by, and whatever is available in the war-torn areas will be of poor quality (symbolized by the barley) and very expensive (a days wage). Then the last horse appears and that is a pale, ashen horse which symbolizes death (of the physical body) and Hades (the soul). As a result several billion people will die (a fourth of mankind on the earth), and as you can see none of this has happened yet because we are not in the Tribulation period and the false messiah has not been revealed (2 Thes 2. 1-12). All of these things have happened before but not in this magnitude.
A. No …they have not been “released” yet and won’t be released until the Tribulation period. Remember this book is written in symbolic language and Hebrew idioms and a good knowledge of the Biblical festivals, Hebrew, the Temple and eschatology is needed to give it meaning.
Revelation 6.1-8 begins with these 4 horses. Four in the Bible is the number of testing, and the inhabitants of the earth will be severely tested. A horse in symbolic language has to do with strength. The first horse is dealing with the authority and strength (horse) from God (the crown) to take peace from the earth. This will be accomplished by many kings and rulers in the Tribulation but the false messiah is a main player here, who pretends to be righteous and peaceful (white horse) but isn’t. Daniel 9 talks about a peace covenant he confirms with Israel but breaks at the mid-point of the Tribulation. He will be fighting battles all through the Tribulation period, losing ground to the Russians for the first few years. Russia, feeling Europe and the false messiah have been neutralized, will feel safe enough to invade Israel where she will be defeated by God Himself.
Taking credit for their defeat the false messiah will move into Israel and declare him-self to be the messiah. Israel will reject him and flee to the wilderness of Jordan/Edom/Moab where she will be protected from the false messiah for three and a half years. He in turn begins to “make war” on anyone who has the testimony of Yeshua and keeps the commandments (Rev 12.17). So, as a result, the sword of blood/ war (red horse) is unleashed and the ability to bring about great carnage. The kings of the east will be fighting the false messiah, the kings of the south will be involved, the United States will be destroyed by a Russian sneak attack at the beginning of the Tribulation and not even be a player. The Arabs will be fighting along-side the Russians for at least 3 years and the list goes on.
Because of the wars, famine is a result (black horse) and food will be hard to come by, and whatever is available in the war-torn areas will be of poor quality (symbolized by the barley) and very expensive (a days wage). Then the last horse appears and that is a pale, ashen horse which symbolizes death (of the physical body) and Hades (the soul). As a result several billion people will die (a fourth of mankind on the earth), and as you can see none of this has happened yet because we are not in the Tribulation period and the false messiah has not been revealed (2 Thes 2. 1-12). All of these things have happened before but not in this magnitude.
Friday, October 13, 2006
Replacement Theology vs. Dispensationalism
What is the difference between Replacement Theology and Dispensationalism?
A. Before I talk about the differences, let’s look at some of the similarities. Both are hermeneutical systems developed to understand the Scriptures and both developed to help “explain away” Israel in some form or another. The newly formed Christian Church had trouble dealing with the fact that many prophecies involved Israel and the Lord’s blessings. That certainly could not be the case. After all, Israel rejected the Messiah didn’t she? How could the Christian Church appropriate the blessing given to Israel? This problem was solved when the theologians and church fathers formed the doctrine of Replacement Theology which simply said the Church is the New Israel and they replaced the unbelieving “old” Israel. Presto! Problem solved. The promises of the New Covenant are fulfilled in the Church.
But, just like Bullwinkle used to try to “pull a rabbit out of a hat” and got something else, so to this doctrine could not be defended when one studied the Hebrew, the context and the literal interpretation of the Scriptures. Yeshua talked about the future salvation of Israel, so did Paul. Daniel understood Jeremiah’s book literally. The allegorical interpretation that physical Israel really means “spiritual” Israel just didn’t hold up. Some people left this type of interpretation behind and tried to solve the age old question of how could the Church apply Scriptures to themselves if they were given to Israel historically? The answer was “dispensationalism” which said that God had a plan for the ages. He works with different groups at different times, according to what age they are in.
He would work with one group, then move on with another, then go back to the first group again. So, Israel could receive the blessing during the “old covenant” then another age comes along called “the church age” and he works with another group called Gentiles in the church. We have all seen the timelines with this on them. When the church age ends, then God goes back to work with Israel again. This differentiation between the two groups helped explain how each should relate to the Torah. Since the Torah was given to Israel it applied until God was done dealing with them. Once He stopped, the Torah stopped. In the future, God will again be dealing with Israel again so the Torah is active again. In short, the Torah applies to Israel. Since God is dealing with the Gentile church now, the Torah does not apply, and so on.
Replacement Theology replaces Israel with the Gentile Church, Dispensationalism just “puts a hold” on Israel while God does something else with someone else. Jews are made into Christians and the Torah does not apply in this “dispensation”. Of course, both of these models are false and cannot be supported by Scripture. The first century Apostles and teachers all appealed to the Torah for living and practice. They were told to follow the Torah and to use their example. Yeshua said He did not come to replace the Torah, but to give it meaning by obeying it, which also means to fulfill. He said that those who departed from the Torah would have no place in Him. John said that if you say you know God but fail to keep the commandments, you are a liar and the truth is not in you. The false teaching of the pre-Adamic world comes right out of dispensationalism.
This theory says that before Genesis 1, there was another world and it fell. God “recreated” the heavens and the earth starting in Genesis 1.1. I asked a famous dipensationalist that if what he said was true, then sin and death existed before Adam even though the Scriptures say they didn’t, and they entered the world through Adam. He simply explained it away by saying “That was a different dispensation.” So in comclusion both of these systems are not Biblical and if one follows them in thought or interpretive practice, the Scriptures will be a very confusing book for you. I hope this helps.
A. Before I talk about the differences, let’s look at some of the similarities. Both are hermeneutical systems developed to understand the Scriptures and both developed to help “explain away” Israel in some form or another. The newly formed Christian Church had trouble dealing with the fact that many prophecies involved Israel and the Lord’s blessings. That certainly could not be the case. After all, Israel rejected the Messiah didn’t she? How could the Christian Church appropriate the blessing given to Israel? This problem was solved when the theologians and church fathers formed the doctrine of Replacement Theology which simply said the Church is the New Israel and they replaced the unbelieving “old” Israel. Presto! Problem solved. The promises of the New Covenant are fulfilled in the Church.
But, just like Bullwinkle used to try to “pull a rabbit out of a hat” and got something else, so to this doctrine could not be defended when one studied the Hebrew, the context and the literal interpretation of the Scriptures. Yeshua talked about the future salvation of Israel, so did Paul. Daniel understood Jeremiah’s book literally. The allegorical interpretation that physical Israel really means “spiritual” Israel just didn’t hold up. Some people left this type of interpretation behind and tried to solve the age old question of how could the Church apply Scriptures to themselves if they were given to Israel historically? The answer was “dispensationalism” which said that God had a plan for the ages. He works with different groups at different times, according to what age they are in.
He would work with one group, then move on with another, then go back to the first group again. So, Israel could receive the blessing during the “old covenant” then another age comes along called “the church age” and he works with another group called Gentiles in the church. We have all seen the timelines with this on them. When the church age ends, then God goes back to work with Israel again. This differentiation between the two groups helped explain how each should relate to the Torah. Since the Torah was given to Israel it applied until God was done dealing with them. Once He stopped, the Torah stopped. In the future, God will again be dealing with Israel again so the Torah is active again. In short, the Torah applies to Israel. Since God is dealing with the Gentile church now, the Torah does not apply, and so on.
Replacement Theology replaces Israel with the Gentile Church, Dispensationalism just “puts a hold” on Israel while God does something else with someone else. Jews are made into Christians and the Torah does not apply in this “dispensation”. Of course, both of these models are false and cannot be supported by Scripture. The first century Apostles and teachers all appealed to the Torah for living and practice. They were told to follow the Torah and to use their example. Yeshua said He did not come to replace the Torah, but to give it meaning by obeying it, which also means to fulfill. He said that those who departed from the Torah would have no place in Him. John said that if you say you know God but fail to keep the commandments, you are a liar and the truth is not in you. The false teaching of the pre-Adamic world comes right out of dispensationalism.
This theory says that before Genesis 1, there was another world and it fell. God “recreated” the heavens and the earth starting in Genesis 1.1. I asked a famous dipensationalist that if what he said was true, then sin and death existed before Adam even though the Scriptures say they didn’t, and they entered the world through Adam. He simply explained it away by saying “That was a different dispensation.” So in comclusion both of these systems are not Biblical and if one follows them in thought or interpretive practice, the Scriptures will be a very confusing book for you. I hope this helps.
Friday, October 6, 2006
Christianity's Roots in Mithraism
Q. I’ve heard a little comment about Mithraism and Christianity. Can you lay out the actual history of such a connection if there is one?
A. Over the years I have given rather detailed analysis on this subject but it wouldn’t hurt to go over some of the basics again. IN the 1st Century, there was no such thing as “Christianity” as we see it today. The believers in the Messiah continued to observe the Torah and taught the Gentiles coming into the faith to observe whatever laws applied to them. They were all seen as part of Israel. The main contention from the Scriptures was not whether Yeshua was the Messiah or not, but what to do with the Gentiles that were coming into the faith. It was revealed by the Lord that they did not have to be circumcised (become Jewish) in order to have a place in the Kingdom of God. They were accepted by Him without it, but they were to keep the Torah. But, even in the 1st Century, there was opposition to the Torah among believers, and the spirit of the False- Messiah was already at work. That spirit is “lawlessness” according to the Scripture. The word means “without Torah” ( Gk> “anomos”). After the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, the Pharisees survived and restructured the “faith” according to their image into what was called Rabbinic Judaism. Messianic believers consisting of Jews and Gentiles continued, but a third strain was developing that was more Greek and Roman based.
This third “strain” was called Christianity and was made up of Gentiles who thought that God was doing away with Israel and they had been replaced. Christianity was contending with an already established religion in the Roman Empire called Mithraism. This religion followed the sun god Mithra, originated in Persia and it was 700 years old by the time of Constantine. The Roman army picked it up and wherever they went, Mithraism went until it was more popular in the Empire than any other religion. Its monuments have been found as far away as Britain. Some of the basic ideas of Mithraism are as follows: Mithra was co-equal with the Supreme deity, kept Sunday as their day of worship, their chief festivals were December 25th and the spring solstice (Easter). Long before Yeshua was born, Mithra was said to be born of a virgin in a cave and died on a cross at Easter.
They practiced baptism, made the sign of the cross on their foreheads and they considered Mithra “savior of the world” because he died to save others. For several hundred years these two religions co-existed until a major event happened. Constantine was Emperor in Rome and supported Christianity, even though he practiced Mithraism until the day he died. The one advantage Christianity had over Mithraism is that a person could have his sins forgiven through repentance. Constantine had a lot to be forgiven for (mass murder) so he didn’t convert until his deathbed because he was only accountable for the sins committed after conversion. The Council of Nicea was convened because Constantine wanted to consolidate all these political and religious forces into one, thus unifying his Empire. He was a good politician. So, the Council of Nicea was the birthplace of Christianity and it was around that time that Mithraism “disappeared”.
In reality, it was absorbed into Christianity along with many other superstitions. Remember, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Thus, Mithraism continued under a new name and it was the end of all the different sects and cults. They found a new home, everybody was happy and they now had an official state religion. The Emperor Julian followed Constantine and he went back to Mithraism, but he reigned 2 years and could not stop Christianity. His death was seen as divine approval for Christianity and the next Emperor Jovian improved the status of Christianity again and it never lost steam after that, and the rest, well, is history. I know it is popular to think that the roots of Christianity are from Israel, but in actuality it is Mithraism that contributed to it. Constantine said himself that one of the goals of the Council of Nicea was to “root out the last vestiges of Judaism” still remaining.
Not one Messianic leader was invited to the council. So, it is not possible that the roots of Christianity are Jewish when Constantine said himself he was ridding Christianity of them, and that’s what he did. You can get volumes of information on this by going to the Internet and looking up subjects like Mithra, Mithraism, Christianity, Constantine, Council of Nicea and so on for yourself. The information I just gave you is all there but don’t do it if you are not serious with the Lord because you are not going to like what you see if you want to remain in Christianity today. If Mithra is god, than follow him. If the God of Israel is God, than follow him. But you can’t do both, or serve two masters. The choice is yours. I hope this helps.
A. Over the years I have given rather detailed analysis on this subject but it wouldn’t hurt to go over some of the basics again. IN the 1st Century, there was no such thing as “Christianity” as we see it today. The believers in the Messiah continued to observe the Torah and taught the Gentiles coming into the faith to observe whatever laws applied to them. They were all seen as part of Israel. The main contention from the Scriptures was not whether Yeshua was the Messiah or not, but what to do with the Gentiles that were coming into the faith. It was revealed by the Lord that they did not have to be circumcised (become Jewish) in order to have a place in the Kingdom of God. They were accepted by Him without it, but they were to keep the Torah. But, even in the 1st Century, there was opposition to the Torah among believers, and the spirit of the False- Messiah was already at work. That spirit is “lawlessness” according to the Scripture. The word means “without Torah” ( Gk> “anomos”). After the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, the Pharisees survived and restructured the “faith” according to their image into what was called Rabbinic Judaism. Messianic believers consisting of Jews and Gentiles continued, but a third strain was developing that was more Greek and Roman based.
This third “strain” was called Christianity and was made up of Gentiles who thought that God was doing away with Israel and they had been replaced. Christianity was contending with an already established religion in the Roman Empire called Mithraism. This religion followed the sun god Mithra, originated in Persia and it was 700 years old by the time of Constantine. The Roman army picked it up and wherever they went, Mithraism went until it was more popular in the Empire than any other religion. Its monuments have been found as far away as Britain. Some of the basic ideas of Mithraism are as follows: Mithra was co-equal with the Supreme deity, kept Sunday as their day of worship, their chief festivals were December 25th and the spring solstice (Easter). Long before Yeshua was born, Mithra was said to be born of a virgin in a cave and died on a cross at Easter.
They practiced baptism, made the sign of the cross on their foreheads and they considered Mithra “savior of the world” because he died to save others. For several hundred years these two religions co-existed until a major event happened. Constantine was Emperor in Rome and supported Christianity, even though he practiced Mithraism until the day he died. The one advantage Christianity had over Mithraism is that a person could have his sins forgiven through repentance. Constantine had a lot to be forgiven for (mass murder) so he didn’t convert until his deathbed because he was only accountable for the sins committed after conversion. The Council of Nicea was convened because Constantine wanted to consolidate all these political and religious forces into one, thus unifying his Empire. He was a good politician. So, the Council of Nicea was the birthplace of Christianity and it was around that time that Mithraism “disappeared”.
In reality, it was absorbed into Christianity along with many other superstitions. Remember, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Thus, Mithraism continued under a new name and it was the end of all the different sects and cults. They found a new home, everybody was happy and they now had an official state religion. The Emperor Julian followed Constantine and he went back to Mithraism, but he reigned 2 years and could not stop Christianity. His death was seen as divine approval for Christianity and the next Emperor Jovian improved the status of Christianity again and it never lost steam after that, and the rest, well, is history. I know it is popular to think that the roots of Christianity are from Israel, but in actuality it is Mithraism that contributed to it. Constantine said himself that one of the goals of the Council of Nicea was to “root out the last vestiges of Judaism” still remaining.
Not one Messianic leader was invited to the council. So, it is not possible that the roots of Christianity are Jewish when Constantine said himself he was ridding Christianity of them, and that’s what he did. You can get volumes of information on this by going to the Internet and looking up subjects like Mithra, Mithraism, Christianity, Constantine, Council of Nicea and so on for yourself. The information I just gave you is all there but don’t do it if you are not serious with the Lord because you are not going to like what you see if you want to remain in Christianity today. If Mithra is god, than follow him. If the God of Israel is God, than follow him. But you can’t do both, or serve two masters. The choice is yours. I hope this helps.
Two Goats on Yom Kippur
Q. What is the significance of the two goats on Yom Kippur?
A. This ceremony is found in Lev. 16 and it is very symbolic of the Second Coming of Messiah. One goat symbolizes the Messiah. It’s designated “to the Lord” (L’Adonai) and the blood from this goat is taken and it is used for cleansing. The second goat is designated “L’Azazel” in Hebrew and it means “to the wilderness.” The name is seen as another name for Satan and the False Messiah. Look up the term in the Gesenius Hebrew Lexicon and do some research on it and you will find that as early as 100 years before the birth of the Messiah Azazel was seen as the False Messiah. There is a teaching that says this goat symbolizes the Messiah but he doesn’t. This goat was led to the wilderness. The wilderness is seen in Scripture as the abode of demons and Satan. This goat is killed, not sacrificed to the Lord. These two are symbolic of the choices we make in our lives. Are we going to follow the Lord or choose Satan and the False Messiah.
This choice is symbolized at the trial of Yeshua before Pilate. On one side there was Yeshua, the Son of the Father, designated to take His blood into the Holy of Holies on behalf of the people. On the other side you had Barabbas, a murderer. So on one side there was Yeshua, the Son of the Father (Lord) and on the other side you had Yeshua, the son of the father (Satan). According to history his name was also Yeshua. Barabbas also means “son of the father” but it’s not our Father in heaven, but the father of lies who was a murderer from the beginning (Jn.8. 44). The people had a choice and they chose the wrong man, they chose Azazel instead of the one “to the Lord”. So Barabbas was sent “into the wilderness” (released) into the world and died. Even at Passover, the Lord was playing out a Yom Kippur scenario. Do you know how important it is to follow the biblical festivals of God? But the people “followed the wrong goat” and didn’t see the things that God is playing out right before their eyes.
And because they didn’t see it, their lives and the lives of their children were destroyed by 70 AD. But, it didn’t stop then. People today still follow the wrong goat, or “son of the father” or Barabbas if you will. They follow a replacement theology that says that the commandments of God have been done away with. They have replaced the goat designated “to the Lord” with the goat designated “to the wilderness” which is the spirit of the False Messiah. This Yom Kippur ceremony with the goats also tells us that Yeshua will return to Jerusalem on Yom Kippur of the 7th year of the Tribulation (Mt. 24. 29-31). He will take the goat Azazel (False Messiah) to the wilderness and he will be destroyed (Rev 19). There is much more to the significance of these two goats but I hope this helps.
A. This ceremony is found in Lev. 16 and it is very symbolic of the Second Coming of Messiah. One goat symbolizes the Messiah. It’s designated “to the Lord” (L’Adonai) and the blood from this goat is taken and it is used for cleansing. The second goat is designated “L’Azazel” in Hebrew and it means “to the wilderness.” The name is seen as another name for Satan and the False Messiah. Look up the term in the Gesenius Hebrew Lexicon and do some research on it and you will find that as early as 100 years before the birth of the Messiah Azazel was seen as the False Messiah. There is a teaching that says this goat symbolizes the Messiah but he doesn’t. This goat was led to the wilderness. The wilderness is seen in Scripture as the abode of demons and Satan. This goat is killed, not sacrificed to the Lord. These two are symbolic of the choices we make in our lives. Are we going to follow the Lord or choose Satan and the False Messiah.
This choice is symbolized at the trial of Yeshua before Pilate. On one side there was Yeshua, the Son of the Father, designated to take His blood into the Holy of Holies on behalf of the people. On the other side you had Barabbas, a murderer. So on one side there was Yeshua, the Son of the Father (Lord) and on the other side you had Yeshua, the son of the father (Satan). According to history his name was also Yeshua. Barabbas also means “son of the father” but it’s not our Father in heaven, but the father of lies who was a murderer from the beginning (Jn.8. 44). The people had a choice and they chose the wrong man, they chose Azazel instead of the one “to the Lord”. So Barabbas was sent “into the wilderness” (released) into the world and died. Even at Passover, the Lord was playing out a Yom Kippur scenario. Do you know how important it is to follow the biblical festivals of God? But the people “followed the wrong goat” and didn’t see the things that God is playing out right before their eyes.
And because they didn’t see it, their lives and the lives of their children were destroyed by 70 AD. But, it didn’t stop then. People today still follow the wrong goat, or “son of the father” or Barabbas if you will. They follow a replacement theology that says that the commandments of God have been done away with. They have replaced the goat designated “to the Lord” with the goat designated “to the wilderness” which is the spirit of the False Messiah. This Yom Kippur ceremony with the goats also tells us that Yeshua will return to Jerusalem on Yom Kippur of the 7th year of the Tribulation (Mt. 24. 29-31). He will take the goat Azazel (False Messiah) to the wilderness and he will be destroyed (Rev 19). There is much more to the significance of these two goats but I hope this helps.
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